|WHY HAS THE WAR OF MAHABHARAT WHICH KILLED 1.7 BILLION PEOPLES ERASED FROM THE MEMORY OF MAJORITY OF THE CURRENT MANKIND????!!!!!......|
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Mahabharata: The Great
War and World History
"In the Mahabharata,
the war seemed to have affected the whole world.
find so many references to such of a huge event
in other cultures.
Why are there
no references to a great world event?"....
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page which presents proofs of mHaabhaart war's mention and effects in the
manuscripts of the civilizations which are now extinct.......
|Today for the 3rd Day running PVAF presents more research
on the history of veDik lifestyle
- and in this case from the knowledge of the 18-day war of
mHaabhaart which killed some 1.7
billion peoples of different kingdoms and its domains....and as per
“There had not been a war as heavy as
this at any time in all the lands.”
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in life...despite all the material wealth you may possess through YOUR current
education which is mainly targeted to earn a living in the current economies of
the current times on this planet earth.....
IT IS WHAT HAPPENED AT
THE END OF MAHABHARTA WAR THAT EXPLAINS THE MISSING LINK OF AMNESIA ABOUT
THE WAR IN CURRENT HUMANITY
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There is reference to a great war both in the Mayan culture and in old Chinese
traditions. They speak about a huge war that happened long, long ago; but they
give no details. They only knew that such a war had occurred.
After any war two things happen. In certain regions, nothing develops for a long
time; and in certain other regions everything expands very rapidly. The same
thing has happened after the Kurukshetra war. In some places everything just
stopped; there was no communication. These places became completely isolated
from the rest of the world.
You can imagine the situation of those other kingdoms which were working under
the fifty-four kingdoms, the Aryan empire. When a huge war like this is waged on
the other side of the globe, and none of the kings ever returned, and their
armies also didn’t come back, what would be the state of communication?
These kingdoms would have become completely alien to everything. No one would
have known what happened. The king with his entire army went to fight in the
great war, and that's it. They just disappeared, never to be heard from again.
The agents from the ruling kingdoms no longer came to collect taxes, no
information was being sent from the world capital. Suddenly these former
colonies are isolated and free. They don't have to pay taxes anymore, nor do
they have to be subservient.
Naturally the new king would try to make a lot of indigenous effort to put forth
their own culture. And if there were any texts left that said his grand father
was a slave of Kaikeya, he would just burn it. They wouldn't want to keep such
The same thing happened in the modern World War, which was actually just a war
around the world. But the Mahabharata war was one massacre at one single place,
and nobody went back. None of the kings or soldiers returned to tell what
It is described that the cremations were done there and the rituals were also
done there. Even the widows of the other kings were adopted there by the
capital, Hastinapura. Seven different types of cremations were done, like mass
cremations, individual cremations, etc. After the cremations, the widows were
all adopted by Hastinapura there itself. There was practically no one going back
to their own countries, hardly a single channel of communication.
We can imagine if we were a distant country ruling under one of these fifty-four
kings, the Aryan empire, and we see no one is returning from the battle, no
communication is coming from the battle; what would we do? Immediately we would
destroy the old information, that showed us as slaves to these Aryan kings, and
emerge as a great self-manifesting empire like Egypt. This is exactly what they
The destruction caused by the war was not only external. The destruction of the
war was also in the minds of the people. After those heavy astras were used, in
the minds of the people anything subtle, anything delicate, anything
perfectional was completely burnt out. It is just like in Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, till today you find the children are disabled. How many years has it
been? It was only two primitive bombs. They were so gross and physical, but the
radioactivity of that is still being seen today.
Then we can understand, according to the descriptions within the Mahabharata,
what was the destruction of the Brahmastras used in the war. What was the Agni-astras
they were using? What was the power of the wind in the Vayu-astra? It was not
only blowing in Kurukshetra, it was blowing all over the planet. What would have
happened to the people’s minds because of the diffusion of all these energies?
Everything became lost. Naturally people would not even be able to think that
they were serving, or they had been paying tax to the Aryan kings of such and
such countries. The whole thing had no meaning any more.
This is known as the "dark period" after the Mahabharata war. Kathacharit-sagara
has stories about this dark time. In the Tamil literature also it discusses this
period. There was a dark period in between where no one knew what happened. Only
the thieves, either through ship or through land, were ruling the world. In
Tamil it is known as "kalapirar kalam" which means the time of the unknown
kings, unknown rulers. The Tamil literature gives 3,000 years for it. And then
the Cheras, Cholas and Pandiyas came to power. In between it was completely
dark. And these Cheras, Cholas and Pandiyas were actually descendants of the
original Cheras, Cholas and Pandiyas who took part in the Mahabharata war.
The Chola king was the one who ran the kitchen for the Pandavas. That is there
in the Tamil literature. Those people who ran the kitchen, they were not just
cooks; they were all soldiers. They went to help in the war and when the
division of work was given, they were given the kitchen. So they were cooking.
There are hundreds of Tamil verses glorifying that king who cooked for the
Pandavas during the Mahabharata war. It is there in the Tamil literature.
If this war never happened, if Kurushetra was only symbolic of the body, mind
and senses; why would this Aryan king have spent twenty years of his ruling time
in the North cooking for someone else. These are clear proofs. There was a dark
time in between. The dark time was nothing but the reactions of the war. After
the dark time, those who emerged powerful were not all the authentic rulers.
Some were descendants, but most were just those who utilized this opportunity to
gain power. This is why it is not mentioned in other cultures, it is not
recorded. A great war is mentioned, but no details are given.
Even in the mythology of the Greeks it is there, only the time is looking
different. The time frame does not look like it is the Mahabharata war, but the
great Achilles fighting and other such stories of Greek mythology have a very
close similarity to stories from the Kurushetra war. In Greek mythology some of
these stories are internally dated much before the time of the Kurushetra war.
The reason is because they wanted to have a separate identity, therefore they
told it as though it happened at a much more ancient time. It may sound like
mythology, but its just the histories which have been handed down from the
Kurushetra war by the bards and entertainers.
The bards and entertainers were not killed. This is an important point in
understanding how this history has spread. At that time, war meant that during
every evening they had theater, they had dance, they had jokers, etc. They had
all varieties of entertainment, and none of these entertainers were killed. That
was the rule according to dharma-shastra, they were not supposed to be killed.
Everyone died on the battlefield of Kurukshetra, but all of these bards, poets
and entertainers lived. This is how the stories were spread.
The people who did street dances and folk dances, poetry and songs, they all
went back. But because the armies and kings were not there, they did not reach
as far as they had come from. These entertainers had traveled along with the
armies and kings, from distant lands. When the battle was finished, they had no
king or army to take them back to their homeland, which in some cases was on the
other side of the world. They traveled on their own, alone, and managed to reach
some distance, somewhere. They did not make it home to their own countries, but
they traveled as far as they could go alone. And when they stopped, unable to go
any further, there they would have searched for some patron to perform for.
|They must have been highly impressed with this war. Whatever had happened,
whatever they saw, the battles between the heroes on both sides; it had
impressed them so much. Naturally they would dramatize this and make stories of
wars, of great battles, of what they had just witnessed.
In this Great war, who would have come back? Only the entertainers; the nandis,
vandis and mahatis; those people who woke up the king’s everyday. They are the
one's who lived to spread these stories. When their kings died they would leave.
This was the tradition. The king goes to the battle with a full entourage . If
the king is killed in the second day of the battle, the king who killed him
takes his army. This was the system in those days. This was not the case for
those who made a pact; like Dhristadyumna was in a pact with the Pandavas. His
army would not go to Duryodhana. But those individual kings who came to the help
the Pandavas, if the king is killed then everything that he has, including his
ornaments, dress and animals, belongs to the king who killed him. Actually his
country also belongs to that king. That was how the war was fought. Everything
including the ornaments he was wearing, his armor, they belong to the winner.
Only his astras won't be taken, because astras won’t serve one unless you have
done the proper upasana. The astras will go back to the rishi or the deva who
has given them. This was the rule of war.
Once their king was killed, what would the entertainers do? They would not
continue sitting there glorifying their dead king while the war was still
continuing. As soon as their king died, they would leave the battle field. So
for them, the outcome of the war was not even known. But when they left they had
nothing, no escort, no entourage; they were alone. So they would travel as far
as they could and as quickly as they could, until they reached whatever place
they could find. They would be looking for a new patron. And if they found one,
the first thing they will say is, "Have you heard? There was a war!" Once they
have found a patron they will start performing. But the war was still running,
and they would not want to be involved in politics, so to protect themselves
they will begin, "Long, long ago..." And that would begin the dramatization of
the Great War. This is how the information spread. You can find in every ethnic
culture in the world, without fail, there is discussion of a Great War. How does
that come about? It may not go by the name Mahabharata, but the great war is
There is an entire culture whose literature is based around crying, the Sumerian
culture. All of their ancient writings are the cries of women who have lost
their husbands in the war. Those who can read ancient Tamil will see that their
script is almost identical, it is similar to the Dravida alphabets; and even the
meanings of the sentences can be understood, it is so similar.
Their texts are saying the same thing as the Mahabharata. A city was built,
there was gambling, another city was burnt, a lady was insulted, and because of
that there was fire. The order may not be the same, but the elements are
identical. After the war, there was crying by the widows. And this crying is the
substance of the Sumerian writings. Each song is a cry. It is the same thing as
found in the Mahabharata. There is a chapter in the Mahabharata, "the crying of
the queens in the war after the kings died". It is identical. Everyone is
talking about this same great war.
Even in regards to geography, the ancient cultures are speaking the same thing.
There is always mention of a river that is running on four sides of a mountain.
They may make the map based on their own idea of how the river is coming down
from the mountain, but the substance is the same. They may not understand that
it is referring to the four branches of the Ganga which go to the four different
levels of the universe, but they have the basic concept. In China it is there.
In the Maya culture it is there. This is the same concept as found in the
Bhagavatam and other Vedic texts.
There are many other parallels between the world cultures, pointing to a common
source. Symbolically the Swastika is found all over the world - in Native
American tribes, in Europe, in ancient India. Hitler was trying to revive the
old Germanic and Norse tales of the Aryan kings, but he failed to understand the
entire tradition. The Swastika represents life, but he chose to reverse it, thus
signifying death. Even linguistically, the Indo-European languages, such as
Sanskrit, Latin, Greek and their many derivatives, have countless similarities.
This all points out that there was originally one culture, one civilization. The
Great War described throughout the world is the Mahabharata war.
One may ask, "Why don't the other countries present it in the exact same way?"
It is because they were countries working under the fifty-four kings. They were
subservient to the Aryan empire, and this war made them free. It was their
chance to rewrite the history, to make their civilization the center of time.
The rulers in Hastinapura allowed it to happen by their negligence. Parikshit
Maharaja did not function as an emperor of the world for a long time, and as a
result there was no unification of the countries done under him. And after him,
Janamejaya spent his whole life trying to kill the snakes, until finally he
became sick of everything and left the kingdom. Because of this the Aryan kings
According to Kathacharit-sagara, after the dark period it was Bhima’s grandsons
who sprung to power from Ujjain and other places. It was in their line that
Vikramaditya later came. In Arjuna's line there was no powerful descendant,
although there were some in Kundinapura. But their line quickly became diffused.
The Indonesian city, Yogyakarta, previously known as Yajna-karta, was ruled by
Bhima’s grandson. It was there that he performed one thousand yajnas, and that
is how the city was named. That was much after the war.
In some places the remnants of Vedic culture are more powerful. Their presence
is felt more directly. But in other places the remnants are faint and more
difficult to perceive. Just like the Sun worshippers of Japan. Previously it was
part of a huge land mass in the pacific, but by the movement of the land and the
sea it has become a tiny island. In that ancient land, they were worshippers of
the Sun god. It was the same with the Lemurian land mass that was between Africa
and India. The Tamil literatures describe a massive land going towards the west
from the present Indian coast.
After every Yuga there is a change of land and sea. There is one chapter on this
in the pratisarga parva of the Bhavishya Purana. It speaks about how the land
and sea change by the influence of time. This is how the flood of Noah described
in the bible occurred. It was taken as a big dissolution, as a pralaya, but it
was just the change of yugas. When Noah built the Arc, He was under the mountain
Tuhinachala. Today the Tuhinachala is now a desert. It is no longer a mountain.
There is another case from Bhima’s time, when he went for collection for the
Rajasuya sacrifice. He went from Puri to Burma by chariot by crossing two
mountains. There was no Bay of Bengal. And now that there is a bay of Bengal, we
see two tiny islands, Andaman and Nicobar. They were the mountains that Bhima
crossed, today they are just small islands.
It is the same situation with New Zealand. They were not islands, but the peaks
of mountains. They belonged to a giant land mass that connected to what was the
Kimpurusha Varsha. But today they are also islands because of the land changes
that occurred when the yugas changed.
So, with all this - the Great War followed by massive changes in the earth's
geography - the civilizations were heavily affected. Vyasadeva describes this
war by saying, “There had not been a war as heavy as this at any time in all the
lands.” He describes it this way because all of the demons and all of the devas
took part in this war at one place - Kurukshetra. It was the heaviest war in the
history, fought between universal powers. Thus its effects were felt in all
places throughout the world.
SOME INSTANCES OF
MAHABHARATA WAR THAT EXPLAINS THE MISSING LINK BETWEEN THE END OF WAR AND
NOW THAT CREATED WAR'S AMNESIA IN CURRENT HUMANITY
Was Sanjaya fighting in the battle of Kurukshetra,
or was he with Dhritarashtra
in Hastinapura narrating the events?
Sanjaya fought in the battle, and was one of the few to return from the
battlefield. He was the last person that Sahadeva was going to kill, but Arjuna
stopped him and said, "No. He is our friend. Let him go and report to the old,
blind man, Dhritarashtra." So Sanjaya left the field of battle. On the way he
met Duryodhana before reaching Hastinapura.
But there is also another description in the Mahabharata, where Sanjaya is
sitting in Hastinapura and speaking to Dhritarashtra while the battle is going
on. How is it possible that Sanjaya is fighting on the battlefield of
Kurukshetra, and simultaneously speaking to Dhritarashtra in Hastinapura. It was
by the mercy of Vyasa that he was able to expand himself into two forms and act
in both places simultaneously. In those times it was not such an impossible
task, especially for those who were direct disciples of Vyasadeva. The Gita uses
the words vyasa-prasadat. By the mercy of Vyasa it was possible.
What was the role of non-vedic kings in the Mahabharata war?
In the Mahabharat there is mention of kings who were outside the levels of
"civilization" who took part in the Great War. They would belong to the 10th,
11th, and 12th varnas. Vedic civilization is based on four varnas (divisions of
society), but there are people who do not fit within these four. They can not
measure up to this high standard. The scriptures list a total of twelve
designations, the four vedic varnas, and eight additional non-vedic varnas. In
the battle of Kurukshetra, Duryodhana took all of the lower fighters onto his
side. It is stated that none of them fought on the side of the Pandavas.
Their warfare was throwing rocks and other very primitive actions. Among all of
the great maha-rathas, the astra fighters, these others were completely
primitive. For example, they would go into the elephant division of an army and
make the elephants sick. They were humans, but in comparison to the maha-rathas
they were like insects. Duryodhana sent many such people to disturb Bhima’s
movements. Bhima was such a high-class physical fighter that when he saw these
groups of people walking with rocks, trying to hit him, he would become very
much agitated. It would make him do things which were completely inordinate.
Because he was physically too powerful, he would get upset and throw everything
everywhere. Just to disorganize him Dhuryodhana was using them.
They would go and bite the elephant’s legs, and because their teeth were
poisonous, the elephant would faint. This was their fighting. They wouldn't go
in front of the elephants like Bhima and hold them by the trunk to throw them.
They would walk under the elephants, and do all kinds of annoying things like
putting needles in the elephant's tail. In contrast to the great heros fighting
in the war, like Drona and Kripa, who used their powerful astras, these others
were exactly like insects.
went around the world killing the kshatriyas,
what does it mean
and who did he kill?
Parashurama was killing ruling kshatriyas, which means rulers of all the
fifty-four countries that made up Bharata-khanda and the Aryan empire. There is
an Upa-purana which deals only with Parashurama lila. There it is mentioned the
names of whom he killed, and they are all within these fifty-four countries.
Parashurama would kill only the kings, nobody lesser than the kings. But the
kings had their armies with them, so ultimately everyone was killed. Afterwards
there was no kshatriya left to whom the planet could be given, so Parashurama
had to give it to the brahmanas.
When you take these fifty-four countries, it means you have the entire world. In
the rest of the world there were only subservient kings who ruled under any one
of these fifty-four.
Especially the distant kings, like after Kaikeya (Afghanistan) up-to the middle
of Europe; those kings ruled the rest of the continents. If there was a king
ruling in Kashyapa's tank, which is today the Caspian Sea, then he was also
ruling out to the Northern and Western side of Europe. And those people who were
ruling under the Sun flag in Japan, which at that time used to be a part of the
"other land", they were ruling the previous America, which was in the Pacific
If you take the fifty-four countries, those kings, then you have all the six
continents. The other lands were colonies and subservient kings of these
Aryan kings. In those other lands the varnashrama was either two-thirds or
one-thirds practiced. Accordingly, those rulers were like chiefs. They were
not like kings. They collected tax, they paid tax and then they enjoyed
their ruling. For example, the present Borneo, which used to be Parana
Dvipa, or the present Fiji which used to be the Ramanika Dvipa. They were
kings who were not in the Sun or Moon dynasties. They were kings who were
working under the rule of the fifty-four kings.
When we say world we must also understand that we are not talking about the
world map which is presently in existence. In the ancient times the
geographical regions were completely different. We are not talking about the
present world. England was not an island; it was a part of Europe. We are
speaking of an ancient time, long ago. The geographical regions were very
different. They did not have to travel three months by ship to go to America
from Europe. That was not the way. The way was by land through the eastern
Why is varnashrama or Vedic dharma manifested only in India and not in the rest
of the world?
To understand this answer we must study the philosophy of the history of the
world, especially in reference to political geography - the various lands and
countries. At the time of Yudhishthira Maharaja the whole planet, all the six
continents, were ruled under one flag. This rule lasted until Yudhishthira
Maharaja. Before that it was even more perfect, and the Bharata-khanda or India
was from the Caspian sea up to Cambodia; and in the north, if you want to see in
regards to the present countries, you can say from Lithuania to seven thousand
miles south of Cape Comorin (in South India). That is what is meant by
Bharata-khanda; that is fifty-four countries, the "India"; and then there are
other countries apart from India.
India was made up of these fifty-four countries, and there were also other
countries existing at that time. In those other countries the varnasrama was not
perfectly practiced. In India (Bharata-khanda) this varnasrama (Vaidhika-dharma)
was perfectly in practice.
After the Mahabharata war, and after the "dark age" in between there was a lot
of mixing up - people leaving from here and coming back from there. So we find
that remnants are there only in India. You can practically say that even in
India now it is not there. So, if in India it is not there, then you can
understand why in other places it is not there. India is the heart of
varnashrama, but the heart itself is in a bypass surgery stage. So, naturally
the rest of the body must be mute.
It’s only a question of the changes of time. For example, today, due to the
spreading of Krishna consciousness, varnasharama is being more perfectly
practiced in the western countries than in India itself. So this is all due to
the changes of time. If you look back in history, you can see that it was the
other way before.
It is not that the varnashrama belongs to one country. Civilization starts with
varnashrama. Sometimes civilization in one part of the world may be high, and
sometimes in another part it may be high. In which ever it is high or low, the
closest remnants will be seen in the heart. This is why it looks like
varnashrama, or caste, or anything is Indian; but that’s not so.
Anywhere in the world there is natural divisions - intellectual class,
administrative class, business class and working class. That’s what varnashrama
means in its essence. However you see it, it is only when people are civilized
that it is functional; but if they are not civilized it is not functional.
Civilized means with a spiritual goal for life. This is the indication of
civilization. But when that goal is not spiritual, when it becomes
materialistic, then naturally the divisions of varnashrama end up as castes,
tribes, clans and the like. It again changes wherever the spiritual goal is
pinpointed in a human civilization. There the varnashrama becomes the first sign
of civilization, the division of society. But this is only if the spiritual goal
is put as the target.
When discussing varnasrama we must understand the two classifications, namely
daiva (spiritual) varnashrama and arthika (material) or asuri varnashrama.
Daiva varnashrama is the perfect ideal which we are talking about. Even in
ancient India, it was not that it was always daiva varnashrama being practiced.
That is always fluctuating. And sometimes it is even found that the demons
follow daiva varnashram more perfectly. For example, at the time of Mahabali,
the asuras were following daiva varnashrama more perfectly than the devas. This
is why they were successful. So there are many details we must take into
The idea that varnashrama belongs to a particular geographic area is not
correct. It is something to do with the culture of a civilized society. They may
not be having the same name, but still, it is varnashrama. If the society is
distinctly divided into the intellectual class, administrative class, business
class and working class, even though they may not be using the Sanskrit words,
it is still varnashrama. It may not be consisting of the rituals and other
things, such as purificatory processes (samskaras) etc., but still it ist he
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